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You might get a few ideas in this thread (converting the stuff from Uresia into BESM 3rd. However, I think the general way of handing creatures in BESM 3rd (as it was in previous editions) is to not bother with stats for minor NPCs (or creatures in this. Jan 15, 2012. I was discussing the old BESM d20 system with a friend and we got to wondering, would Paizo ever consider publishing a Pathfinder Anime game using. I really like the way Paizo handled Catfolk; they're humanoid felines with a rather feral look to them, they're not furries, they're not kemonomimi, they're.

I was discussing the old BESM d20 system with a friend and we got to wondering, would Paizo ever consider publishing a Pathfinder Anime game using the SRD and OGL for that system? I am sure there is a market for it and since the syetem is OGL there would be no liscence fees involved. And it would allow me to finally be able to use a Pathfinder system to run an Exalted campaign :) So what do you guys think?

I'm holding out for Pathfinder: Cubist.

But seriously, every time a spinoff or variant of the rules has been suggested, the staff have called it extremely unlikely. They just don't want to split the fanbase, and they're not going to release more games that they can't support.

...I was hoping for the announcement of a Pathfinder Anime when I saw this thread. I'm a bit disappointed now.

I'm holding out for Pathfinder: Cubist.

But seriously, every time a spinoff or variant of the rules has been suggested, the staff have called it extremely unlikely. They just don't want to split the fanbase, and they're not going to release more games that they can't support.

I'm convinced I've been running Pathfindet: Surrealism, melting clocks and all!

What anime are you trying to emulate?

If it's something like Shuffle! or Maison Ikkoku, the Pathfinder rule set is pretty worthless.

For nearly any shonen fighting anime, Pathfinder can do a good job, as long as you manage your expectations (no destroying planets with a single energy blast, for example). I find that using psionics helps out a lot, but you can get by without it.

The witch class has magical girl written all over it. (Well, in my copy, anyway ...)

What anime are you trying to emulate?

No particular anime, I actually would like to be able to do Uresia: the Grave of Heaven or Exalted using Pathfinder. I have tried a few different ideas for simulating Exalted with Pathfinder, but nothing has really clicked. The power levels are just different enough to throw things off. Uresia on the other hand could be done with Pathfinder for the most part, if it wasn't for those pesky mecha. In both cases the ability to buy powers, mecha, etc. with build points like you could do in BESM d20 would make it a lot easier to run such campaigns.

I want to see them emulate BACCANO, if any. That would be pretty awesome, but as you said, might split the fanbase.

Pathfinder anime would be pretty specific to the anime production team. Raganok Online was successfully ported over from a South Korean MMO to an anime. The entire Slayers line couldn't be ported to Pathfinder, however. (Dragon Slave? Level 9 Sor/Wiz Tactical Nuke-like Fireball? uh....)

A 'pure' medieval fantasy anime using Pathfinder rules would be pretty boring to most Japanese audiences, IMHO. Unless all the characters started out with detailed histories at epic levels, much like the redone He-Man and the Masters of the Universe. No Level Ones. You would need to have a pretty convincing storyline as well. Already-known storylines like Rise of the Runelords, Legacy of Fire, etc. would again be vetoed out by the production team as 'boring'.

I think the best we could hope for would be a story-within-a-story anime: a group of okatu (fanboy/nerd) players in an Adventure Path where we see their player characters in Golarion, as well as their daily school lives. Perhaps an after-school club that introduces characters both to the club and the game. This gets the Pazio team involved directly with the anime production team, might get the fans some X-men or Witchblade-quality anime, and promotes Pathfinder the gaming system via an anime series. More than just anime of various YouTube videos of players at the table. And avoiding the whole 'they started to believe the fantasy' like the Tom Hanks D&D movie in the 1980s (that I still have people think of when I talk to them about D&D).

If you're talking about classic fantasy anime, just stick with standard Pathfinder. After all, classics such as Record of Lodoss War and Slayers pretty much used D&D classes and spell lists with no modification at all. Just throw in a race of girls with cat ears and you're set!

I want to see them emulate BACCANO, if any. That would be pretty awesome, but as you said, might split the fanbase.

That might even get my money.

A 'pure' medieval fantasy anime using Pathfinder rules would be pretty boring to most Japanese audiences, IMHO.

Record of the Lodoss war was based off an acutual D&D game of the animators, so I've heard.

Fairy Tail, Baccano!, Utawarerumono, Rurouni Kenshin, Pumpkin Scissors, Inuyasha, Hellsing, Full Metal Alchemist, Hunter x Hunter, D. Gray-man, Claymore, Code Geass, Black Cat... There is definitely a market for this. Not that you couldn't modify the rules for any of these, but a set standard would be what someone could buy and enjoy.

Oh, and by the way, I am such a big nerd for thinking of these of the top of my head. Except for Utawarerumono, I had to look up the spelling for that.

And somewhere in the house I've got my copy of Slayers d20 that Guardians of Order (the BESM people) published years ago. I'd need to look at it to see if conversion to Pathfinder was plausible, but from what I recall I doubt it because some of the characters were uber powered relative to PF.

I am disappointed this was not an announcement of a new video series.

*sigh* Normally I haven't had to pull out this soap box in a while but since this forum tends to lean more towards proving itself to be a decent ground for semi-civil discussions I think it's time to do this again.

There is a fundamental problem with the topic as a whole right now. People are (in all honesty, most likely unintentionally) being ignorant of the medium of Japanese animation.

Asking for an 'anime' anything is about as ridiculous as asking for a 'movie' anything. Or a 'book' anything.

Mediums have genres. Genres have conventions and standards. These conventions and standards can vary quite greatly depending on the genre you are speaking of.

For example, a shōnen genre anime will likely involve characters with powers often of supernatural source that will vary greatly in intensity dependent upon what the plot requires. Where as a fantasy anime may or may not use supernatural powers and may or may not follow a set power curve depending on how much shōnen is injected into it while it also may or may not curve to other fantasy standards depending on if it is playing itself straight or being a parody.

You really can't have a 'generic anime' game with rulesets anymore than you can have a 'generic movie' or 'generic book' game.

Now with that in mind. Pick your genre type and then we can discuss how to best emulate it. ^_~

I knew it was a bad move by Paizo to introduce catgirls. It's all downhill from here.

I knew it was a bad move by Paizo to introduce catgirls. It's all downhill from here.

Actually I really like the way Paizo handled Catfolk; they're humanoid felines with a rather feral look to them, they're not furries, they're not kemonomimi, they're actually a good way towards being a meaningful addition to the narrative.

Will I even play one? Probably not, they just don't have enough lore for me to get behind yet. Can I tolerate one's presence at my gaming table? Depends on the player.

My one gripe I have with the race is the name: catfolk? Is that REALLY what they call themselves?

A 'pure' medieval fantasy anime using Pathfinder rules would be pretty boring to most Japanese audiences, IMHO.

Berserk springs instantly to mind...

If only I could run a Spice and Wolf campaign, with actual working economic rules... :)

If only I could run a Spice and Wolf campaign, with actual working economic rules... :)

I would totally play in that campaign.

If only I could run a Spice and Wolf campaign, with actual working economic rules... :)

I really liked the anime and the manga of that series.

I removed a post and the replies to it. Generally speaking, you shouldn't use the word 'Weeaboo'.

If only I could run a Spice and Wolf campaign, with actual working economic rules... :)

Yay!! Holo is awesome.

Hmm, how would I handle such a character? Wild shape and immortality? Also need a 'meld into plant' kind of ability.

I'm working on a Pathfinderization and general revision of Slayers d20 (actual IP removed for putting up on the Internet).

But that's less 'Pathfinder Anime' and more 'Over the top lighthearted Pathfinder with non-Vancian casting and psychological warfare rules and a spell with which you can destroy the universe.'

I'm revising spells at the moment. I actually hope to throw up a draft online when I'm done with the spells, if anyone'd be interested in looking at it though.

For the Anime d20 SRD... I always felt that system was a bit of a mess, honestly, and would prefer to use some iteration of Mutants and Masterminds (which is a much cleaner point buy system) with whatever Japanese genre I wanted to use (magical girl, seinen superheroes, space opera, mecha...). The M&M Mecha and Manga books flesh out how to do adventures in that system.

But for either, you could always consolidate skills, add combat maneuvers, and match BAB to Hit Dice....

Asking for an 'anime' anything is about as ridiculous as asking for a 'movie' anything. Or a 'book' anything.

Mediums have genres. Genres have conventions and standards. These conventions and standards can vary quite greatly depending on the genre you are speaking of.

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You really can't have a 'generic anime' game with rulesets anymore than you can have a 'generic movie' or 'generic book' game.

Now with that in mind. Pick your genre type and then we can discuss how to best emulate it. ^_~

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You're right, of course, that anime is a medium, not a genre, and it's a bit naive to think that all anime is the same.

That said, anime does have certain conventions to it not normally found in other media, just as books have conventions that music or movies don't.

As for choosing the genre, well, we are talking about Pathfinder aren't we? Pathfinder already has a genre (high fantasy epic), so I think in this case it is correct to talk about anime without worrying about picking a genre type, because our genre is already selected for us.

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That said, Pathfinder's genre doesn't normally appear in anime. As jhpace1 explained, the Tolkien-inspired fantasy that Pathfinder is built on just doesn't seem to grasp the eastern audience's imagination the way it does in the west, so anime doesn't usually operate in that genre.

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That doesn't mean a Pathfinder anime or anime-themed Pathfinder game couldn't exist, just that it has some issues it needs to settle first.